Comments on: Inches Are Written With Fractions…Not Decimal Points https://www.howtopastel.com/2022/02/inches-are-written-with-fractions-not-decimal-points/ Info, opinion, and training on how to pastel with artist Gail Sibley BFA, MA Fri, 29 Sep 2023 21:35:52 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.5.4 By: Gail Sibley https://www.howtopastel.com/2022/02/inches-are-written-with-fractions-not-decimal-points/#comment-54064 Fri, 29 Sep 2023 21:35:52 +0000 https://www.howtopastel.com/?p=19510#comment-54064 ]]> In reply to Don.

Hah hah. I sure have been getting responses from those who need to work in tiny measurements! Don, I appreciate your thoughts on this topic 😁

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By: Gail Sibley https://www.howtopastel.com/2022/02/inches-are-written-with-fractions-not-decimal-points/#comment-54063 Fri, 29 Sep 2023 21:34:57 +0000 https://www.howtopastel.com/?p=19510#comment-54063 In reply to Lana.

Thanks for checking in with your thighs Lana!!

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By: Don https://www.howtopastel.com/2022/02/inches-are-written-with-fractions-not-decimal-points/#comment-54041 Thu, 28 Sep 2023 23:39:54 +0000 https://www.howtopastel.com/?p=19510#comment-54041 For most people, using fractions is fine, carpenters use fractions. But machinists deal in thousands of an inch, fractions are not possible. As a retired mechanic in factories I had to use a lathe and a milling machine as part of my job functions fabricating parts. We use instruments like dial calipers etc. that are calibrated in thousands of an inch. Accuracy is crucial and fractions don’t cut it. Because of this when I measure stuff where I don’t need accuracy and could use fractions, I tend to still use the decimal point to donate fractions. That’s just the way it is for someone like me.

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By: Lana https://www.howtopastel.com/2022/02/inches-are-written-with-fractions-not-decimal-points/#comment-54016 Wed, 27 Sep 2023 04:27:53 +0000 https://www.howtopastel.com/?p=19510#comment-54016 In reply to Gail Sibley.

Fractions & inches are both representation of a whole not 10. As someone who owns a trophy shop and often has to create art or speak to an engraving machine digitally I do so in decimals. If I’m asking someone to cut something w a ruler I say it in fractions. I think both expressions are quite useful when it comes to measurement.

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By: Gail Sibley https://www.howtopastel.com/2022/02/inches-are-written-with-fractions-not-decimal-points/#comment-53694 Wed, 06 Sep 2023 22:52:26 +0000 https://www.howtopastel.com/?p=19510#comment-53694 In reply to Richard meagley.

Oh my gosh Richard – thank you for your detailed comment! You have my head spinning lol! I’m going to have to reread this a few times to let it sink in…
I know a lot of artists with a mathematical bent will enjoy your addition to this conversation.
I guess you don’t have a website where we can see your bespoke furniture?

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By: Richard meagley https://www.howtopastel.com/2022/02/inches-are-written-with-fractions-not-decimal-points/#comment-53679 Wed, 06 Sep 2023 01:59:23 +0000 https://www.howtopastel.com/?p=19510#comment-53679 πŸ˜πŸ˜‰ βœŒπŸΎπŸ˜ŽπŸ™πŸΎ]]> Fun read and perspective.
In the 80s and 90s, I would complain about the imperial system. I’ve been carpentering since 1985. The fractions used to frustrate me. Too many denominators. Then an old guy in the late 90s taught me the common denominator method. Now I use only inches and 16ths. So a seven and five eighths measurement is written 7-10/. Spoken, “seven and ten”. Totally simplifies the fraction condition, across the board. Today I focus mainly on bespoke custom furniture. Things need to be exact. I aim for accuracy within 1/256th of an inch. In the rough however, I’ll stop at a 64th. Which leads me to an even more simplified notation of the fraction, than even the fast common denominator….. that would be….. + & -. A plus, is 1/32 more than the numerator.

A minus depends on positioning. The minus before the plus [/-+means 1/64 more than the numerator. The minus after the plus [ /+-] means 3/64 more than the numerator. Or it can be noted “/–” meaning the same as the latter. Rather, referencing the next 16th numerator from the last.
So… 7-10/+- = seven and fortythree sixtyfourths or 7-43/64.
7-10/– = seven and 39/64. 7-12/+ = seven and 24/32. When I’m doing radius woodwork, I convert the 16th to .0625 and the 32nd to .03125 and so on, because I can get pretty darn exacting with the decimal. Then I round to the nearest 256th to get close to 3.5 thousandths tolerance as possible. After all, we can visually divide the space between two 16ths into 12 parts to aim at the 3.5 thousandths or 1/256 tolerance of perfection. This ensures that the radius I’m artfully and creatively joining the the angular pieces, join up flawlessly. Yes, I did construction (site, finish Carpentry) for decades. Cut/ glue and nail. But today, with the custom woodshop focus, I do much more creative artful projects. And use both systems. Actually I even employ Pythagorian system of 9 quite regularly as well… .Part of the art for me.

Yet when its all said and done, I always convert back to imperial 16th fractions because, well, 1) I’m used to it and I have fun with combining those systems in my own unique way. And 2) my material comes in quarter inch increments and my tools all register in inches…… including my tape…… that’s “measuring” tape for those artists that are not familiar with the art is Carpentry and joinery. πŸ˜‡πŸ˜πŸ˜‰
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By: Gail Sibley https://www.howtopastel.com/2022/02/inches-are-written-with-fractions-not-decimal-points/#comment-52365 Fri, 30 Jun 2023 18:16:28 +0000 https://www.howtopastel.com/?p=19510#comment-52365 In reply to Egdir.

Hah hah. Well spotted Egdir! And I can hardly believe I missed that error. Thank you and now fixed.

And thank you for your additional comment regarding the practice of US engineers to convert and convert back. And yes, far better to remain in decimal!

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By: Egdir https://www.howtopastel.com/2022/02/inches-are-written-with-fractions-not-decimal-points/#comment-52350 Fri, 30 Jun 2023 05:32:40 +0000 https://www.howtopastel.com/?p=19510#comment-52350 In reply to Vicki Morgan.

Yes, and the author is also confused. “five and a half inches by seven and three eighths inches. Do you write 5 1/2 x 7 1/8 in? Or do you write 5.5 x 7.125 inches? ”
Well, no, because seven and three eighths inches is 7 3/8, not 7 1/8. If you are going to publish, get it right.

Interestingly, US American engineers convert inches and fractions into decimal, make the calculation, then convert back to the approximate nearest fraction, making everything quite inaccurate. It would be far better to just remain in decimal. I worked for a year in the USA at a biology research lab, and everything was done using international SI units, including temperature. This is because if they don’t the rest of the world will ignore USA published research as unusable.

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By: Dave https://www.howtopastel.com/2022/02/inches-are-written-with-fractions-not-decimal-points/#comment-51381 Tue, 23 May 2023 21:30:45 +0000 https://www.howtopastel.com/?p=19510#comment-51381 In reply to Vicki Morgan.

You touched on the reason why inches sometimes have decimals instead of fractions, engineering. Also computing. I work at a hardware store and if I cut a piece of glass to 37 5/8 inches by 23 7/8 I have to enter the numbers in the point of sale as a decimal. It’s annoying but I just suck it up. When converting from metric to imperial you get far more accurate conversions using decimals as well.

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By: Gail Sibley https://www.howtopastel.com/2022/02/inches-are-written-with-fractions-not-decimal-points/#comment-51193 Mon, 24 Apr 2023 19:50:55 +0000 https://www.howtopastel.com/?p=19510#comment-51193 In reply to Sean M..

Thanks for chiming in on this topic Sean!

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